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Creative Caribbean Excellence - Beyond the Caribbean

Creative Caribbean Excellence - Beyond the Caribbean

First-generation, Trinidadian actress, living and working in Los Angeles, Tiffany Yvonne Cox, chats with Leslie-Ann about how she navigates as a person of colour with Caribbean roots in Trinidad and Grenada, in the entertainment industry in America.

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About the Episode 

First-generation, Trinidadian actress, living and working in Los Angeles, Tiffany Yvonne Cox, chats with Leslie-Ann about how she navigates as a person of colour with Caribbean roots in Trinidad and Grenada, in the entertainment industry in America. The conversation dives deep into how she manages to bring her Caribbean essence into everything that she does, the issues of inequality on set, and her advocacy efforts and accomplishments.  The plight and struggle of the creative space in the Caribbean is highlighted and discussed, as Leslie asks; why haven’t we seen more Caribbean stories crossing over to mainstream international media? Tiffany sheds light on the importance of raising awareness of the value in creative arts, and the platform that it provides to make real change. She believes that for policy-makers in the Caribbean need to be made to understand and appreciate the value and scope of the arts. Being raised by Trinidadian parents, much is said about the values taught in Caribbean families, such as resilience and confidence, loyalty, and how they have served her well as a woman, mother, and working actress. 

 

Takeaways

Key takeaways include Tiffany paying homage to her Trinidadian parents instilling in her ideals of resilience, love for self and family, and how she has used that to navigate as an actress in America. She says she brings this Caribbean essence into everything that she does, even the roles she plays, especially in her current role as “Autumn” in the Hulu legal drama series, “Reasonable Doubt.” She also says that the work ethic of Caribbean people stand out and she always looks forward to meeting people from the region who share similar interests and backgrounds. 

Tiffany sheds light on what her experience has been like as a Caribbean person of colour. She highlighted that at acting school, most of the teachers and directors were white and it took some time before she got exposed to working with or being directed on set by black people. She calls this a “disservice,” as it carries over into simple things, like auditioning and finding placements, because of the lack of diverse casting that still exists. 

The audience gets to learn about the inequality that exists on set when it comes to actors of colour receiving the short end of the stick, including not having the skilled personnel to handle black hair and make-up. Women especially had to fend for themselves by doing their own hair and make-up, while their white counterparts received full-blown service from the hair and makeup personnel on set. Tiffany shares how she led advocacy efforts on this issue and describes how the process moved from small meetings, to conferences, to eventually crafting legislation to go before the senate. She’s garnered a lot of support for the movement and very soon actors of colour will be signing contracts, ensuring skilled hair and make-up personnel, while being protected. 

The discussion honed in on why there is not more of a heavier presence of Caribbean stories in mainstream media and entertainment. Tiffany says it starts with the lack of value and focus on the arts in the region, in general, and calls for a heavier injection of funds into the creative industries. She believes that in the Caribbean, there needs to be more awareness of the value, power, and impact the arts can have on changing lives and improving communities. 

Ultimately, she says that her greatest wish for the Caribbean is for Caribbean people to be seen. 


Episode Summary

On this episode on Caribbean talent in mainstream media, creative excellence in the diaspora, and the orange economy, Leslie-Ann sits and chats with Tiffany Yvonne Cox, a 1st generation Trinidadian actress, living and working in Los Angelese. Tiffany sheds light on her upbringing and how she has navigated as a Caribbean person of color in the workplace, and how her deep-rooted resilience has carried her through many obstacles.

The audience learns about the inequality issues that exist on entertainment sets, and how Tiffany led a charge to get representation and support to bring new legislation to the senate to protect the interests of Black and non-White persons on set. 

The creative space in the Caribbean is discussed, highlighting the weaknesses that exist and what needs to happen for more Caribbean stories to make it into mainstream media. 

The work-life, family-life balance is highlighted and Tiffany praises her Caribbean family and background for the extra support and intervention she receives, which allows her to pursue and commit to her goals. 

Anyone with an interest in the arts can learn a lot from this episode on creative excellence and resilience. 



About the Guest

Tiffany Yvonne Cox is a first generation Trinidadian actress, director, writer and producer. She, after her first TV role on Chicago Fire, decided to move to LA, where she has worked on shows such as Grey's Anatomy, Dead to Me and Good Trouble. She currently has a recurring role in the Ramla Muhammad, Kerry Washington, Larry Wilmore-led legal drama “Reasonable Doubt” on Hulu. When not on screen or stage, Tiffany volunteers with the nonprofit organization “CSH Speak Up”, where she supports those who have experienced homelessness in developing their story, to share with legislators for more funding towards supportive housing. 

Once she realized that minority stories are to be brought to the forefront, which was something she enjoyed creating through art, she began producing and directing. She has directed the one woman show “Whoa Man” by Brianna Morris, the podcast play “LaDonna’s Epiphany” featuring Anna Maria Horsford, and most recently “Star Vehicle”; a short film that is a comedic love letter to all actors with a look into the world of the diversity day player.

Transcript Season 3 - Episode 3

LESLIE-ANN SEON EPISODE INTRO:

On this episode of Seon 180 I'll be chatting with Tiffany Cox out of Los Angeles, California; an inspirational, influential voice that has gone the distance in the creative art industry in the United States. We're moving beyond the borders.

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Be bold. Take risks. Lead by example. Believe in your power. Say what you feel, mean what you say. Hi, I'm Leslie Ann Seon, host of the new podcast series, Seon180. Join me at Seon180 on this journey of discovery and advancement.

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LESLIE-ANN SEON: Hello again and welcome to Seon 180. I am your host, Leslie Anne Seon. On our podcast series, we feature Caribbean voices from around the world who are making real differences in their areas of influence. I invite you to check out my website at  Seon180.com or visit your favorite podcast streaming sites for current episodes as well as past shows. You can also visit my Facebook or Instagram page for weekly updates, tidbits, advice and interactions with me, your host and fellow listeners. 

Today we are going to chat about Caribbean talent in mainstream media, creative excellence in the diaspora and the orange economy. And I am thrilled to be chatting with Tiffany Yvonne Cox, a first generation Trinidadian actress, director, writer and producer. She, after her first TV role on Chicago Fire, decided to move to LA, where she has worked on shows such as Grey's Anatomy, Dead to Me and Good Trouble. She currently has a recurring role in the Ramla Muhammad, Kerry Washington, Larry Wilmore led legal drama “Reasonable Doubt” on Hulu. When not on screen or stage, Tiffany volunteers with the nonprofit organization “CSH Speak Up”, where she supports those who have experienced homelessness in developing their story to share with legislators for more funding towards supportive housing. 

Once she realized that minority stories are to be brought to the forefront, which was something she enjoyed creating through art, she began producing and directing. She has directed the one woman show “Whoa Man” by Brianna Morris, the podcast play “LaDonna’s Epiphany” featuring Anna Maria Horsford, and most recently “Star Vehicle”; a short film that is a comedic love letter to all actors with a look into the world of the diversity day player.

Welcome Tiffany to Seon180!

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Thank you for having me. What a blessing to be here. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Absolutely fantastic. I'm excited to be speaking about the creative arts and your experience with it in the United States. With your Caribbean essence. I want to lean straight into how you brought that Caribbean essence into your work. 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Sure thing. You know, there are characteristics and my husband notes this out to me, (laughs) because he is American from Chicago. That is so different because of just how we are bred. Even though I was born in America, my parents made sure that in the houses that we lived in I grew up as a  military brat. So I moved every two to three years, so that when I was in the house we were in Trinidad, I would know my culture. I would be brought up the way my parents were brought up. And some of that was resilience. That was figuring it out. It was being tough. It was also being loving and loyal to our people and knowing thyself and that pride that we have. So the beautiful thing that I get to do is that comes naturally within my essence. Whenever I do an audition there, I'll throw in a little accent or whatever if I want to bring some spice into it to have some fun. And that has brought me callbacks or other auditions and things like that. But I would say, truly, it's how my parents brought me up with these Caribbean characteristics that I just hold within my essence that comes forward in my characters. You can even see right now in Reasonable Doubt, I play a therapist. I'm the level headed friend. I'm also the friend that's going to tell you about yourself. And if we know anything about Caribbean people, they don't hold their tongue. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Nope. We don't know about that.  

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: No! So that's something that comes very naturally and normally because that's how I was brought up. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes. 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: These Caribbean cultural norms and practices rarely go with you a long way and passes through generations, doesn't it? And I think it really does make a difference when you see us standing out in North America in whatever industry, but particularly in the creative arts. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Definitely.  

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: I think so. And even for the show I'm on Reasonable Doubt right now. The lead, her father's from Panama. Yes,  Panamanian Emayatzy Corinealdi. And so,we do stand out in the arts. And then I find even, as we're talking to each other, just our different values and the way you move throughout the world, you're like, oh, okay, that's why you're my people, because you're Caribbean. I see it there. Jackson and I were just in American Horror Story. We have a scene together. She's trinidadian as well. So it makes sense when it comes to work ethic, the work ethic that we have because we work hard. The fact that my parents came here, from not having much and made their life it would be so dishonorable for me not to be able to take that as a launch pad to go even further. And I think that's a part of, that's part of being Caribbean, that's part of my upbringing and part of that pride that we have. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: This is the quintessence of the Caribbean story. It's the pride, it's the resilience, it's the courage, it's even the confidence to take on roles that we wouldn't otherwise maybe want to think or consider taking on. Do you find that there is camaraderie amongst your other Caribbean artists? 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Oh, definitely. Definitely. I feel as if as soon as you learn that somebody's from the Caribbean its family, and especially, I live in Los Angeles and before that I lived in Chicago, so these are not necessarily the hubs of the Caribbean. So when you find each other, oh, boys, you grab onto one another very quickly. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes.

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: And come together or give information or I used to run something called the Reading series and something that I look forward to having more of is more, forward facing Caribbean stories in American television and such. So there was a gentleman who had pieces from Jamaica and he just said, he didn't know any actors. I said, come, boy. I was like, I know actors, that's what I do. Let's come together and read your script and get that out there so people can hear it and see it and you can develop it. 

So there's definitely a camaraderie that happens as soon as you hear that if somebody's from this country or that country somewhere within the Caribbean diaspora 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: yeah, good. You need that support, because I would expect that as a person from the Caribbean and a person of color, there are some challenges and there are some hurdles that one has to overcome in the creative industry, in Hollywood or just in the US in general. Can you tell us about that and how maybe your own Caribbean upbringing has helped you to succeed and still achieve where you are today? 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Definitely. You know, one, being black in America comes with so much history, weight and baggage, the beautiful and the ugly of it. Correct? 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes. 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: And the cool thing that we've seen recently is that there are more opportunities for us, there is more diverse shows, there's more auditions for people of color, for black people. There are more Caribbean people outside of just the cleaning lady. But still, when we turn on the television, what is the majority? So that's constantly what I'm looking back at, what we are looking back at, to see and measure how far have we gone? Because I'll tell you this, when I was in school, I had never been directed by a black director. We did not do any shows that were particularly black or anything like that. And so it wasn't until I left school and the very first time I did a black show called Trouble In Mind, directed by Timothy Douglas, Black director, all black cast except one person. And I was like, oh, this is what it feels like just to be, I didn't know that this was my white counterparts experience time and time again. What a disservice I received when it came to training because I didn't have that experience granted, I also put it towards education. Like, you don't know what you don't know.  The white people had no clue until after well, they chose also to not have a  clue and pay attention until after George Floyd to really open their eyes up and say, oh, there's a huge difference between how white people and black people  are treated in all different realms when it comes to America. 

Then add in the Caribbean part of it, right. Because there's a fantastic actress and writer. She's a writer and the co executive producer of P Valley, Kemiyondo Coutinho. And she noted that don't just write black forties, black kind. What does that mean for you? Are they Southern? Are they caribbean? Are they from the continent? 

LESLIE-ANN SEON:  That's right.

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: All of these things are so important in bringing about the nuance of who we are. So talking about how I've continued on even through the tough times of not getting auditions because they're not going to put me in A Christmas Carol, because what are they going to do with the black girl or not getting the booking because it ended up going to a name or somebody of a lighter color. 

This is where the resilience that we have, the pride that we have as Caribbean people, has made me not stop. I say to people all the time, if you watch an actor, the ones who have made it are the ones that did not quit. That's what it is. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: They don't take no for an answer. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: We don't take no for an answer. For me, it's not right now. And also my faith in God, I'm like, no, I have to keep on going. I'm going to keep on going. And that's definitely something that was ingrained in me from my parents who did keep on going, from their parents who did keep on going. You find a way. You figure it out. My phrasing, in order to make sure, because obviously I need to live a life. I have to pay rent, I have to take care of my children and all that. But also I need the space to be able to audition and to be able to build these characters and the time to do that. So, it takes someone, and Caribbean people are the perfect examples of that. Who's not willing to give up to keep on going in this industry. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yep, Don't surrender.  So, Tiffany, you walk into a dressing room, whether it's for a play or TV show. And I've heard stories about models and dancers and actresses and so on having difficulty with their makeup or their hair. How do you cope with the adjustments that need to be made for your complexion or the kind of hair that you have and styling? Tell us about that. 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Right. So for those who might just be listening and not seeing, I have natural hair. I have shaved sides. And it was tough in the beginning because when you're first starting out you don't want to be the difficult one. So if you were to speak up and you say, oh, this makeup artist made me look gray or ashy or this person didn't know how to do my hair, sometimes it could be seen as if you are difficult in quotation marks, which is not the case. For me, it took that happening enough times where then I was deciding to do my own hair and makeup while I'm watching my counterpart get theirs all done and everything. I was like, you know what? We keep on talking about this amongst ourselves. And when I say amongst ourselves, amongst black people, I was like, this is ridiculous. We need to go to those who can change this and talk to them about it. Because again, you don't know what you don't know. And there is a lack of awareness when it comes, at times, to other races and cultures beyond black people where they just don't see what we go through. 

So, for myself, I took it upon myself and started a grassroots group, actually during the pandemic, to make some change. I'm part of a union called SAGAFTRA that is America's Screen Actors Guild For Actors. And I was part of leadership at that time. So I gathered those who had been in leadership positions, board positions, and said, this is the problem. How do we make some incremental steps to change this? Which turned from zoom conversations, turned into panels, turned into talking to the producers guild and the director guild, started talking to IYATSI, which is where our hair and makeup artists, they're under that union so that they would become aware of what was going on. 

And an amazing thing that we learned was people, they honestly thought it was a vanity thing, but they didn't realize that it wasn't about vanity. It's about the fact that black actors are coming on set and doing their own hair and white counterparts get to sit in the chair and get whatever done. We're using our own money and bringing in our products, so we're using our money and go and get our hair done beforehand and then coming on to set. So I tend to be gracefully firm. 

And also having the platform of SAGAFTRA did help and protect me in order to make this awareness. So the beautiful thing that has happened now is that in our commercial contracts, we actually have protections where somebody has to be qualified and experienced in doing textured hair and doing all the different tones of makeup. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Melonated skin. 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Yes, exactly. And then next up as well, we've joined up with the Crown Act. So it's passed the House of Representatives for the United States and now it's moved to the Senate and hopefully will be passed for that will also give us legal protection. And the hope is that next up we can do our theatrical contracts, which is TV and film, to make sure that people are protected. Where if you come on set and then you have to do your own hair and this person's not qualified, or they mess you up, because I've heard of people having scars on their face because they've used the wrong razor. Or they didn't know how to work with this black man's face. Or they straighten your hair so much and now your hair is starting to fall out. There should be compensation for that, another form of reparations, because this is ridiculous. It's racism. 

 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes. Congratulations on achieving that. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Thanks 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: I think the Pandemic has brought forth so many opportunities and amazing changes,for us personally and professionally, that I love hearing stories like that. But, you know, during the Pandemic, here's what I did, and I led it, I charged it, and now we're reaping the results. TIFF, I want to take you back to our Caribbean folk and say to you, why haven't we seen perhaps more Caribbean stories making it into mainstream media or more Caribbean actors and dancers making it into the big world? And what do you think we need to do? Or what advice would you give us to tap into these international markets? Because we have a lot of talented folk here. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Right? I agree. I agree. And I think a part of it is possibly where focus and value is placed. Now I can even say. For my parents, when I told my father I wanted to be an actor, I could see the reaction.

LESLIE-ANN SEON: (Laughing) I can see the reaction. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Exactly. That's not a job. My father came every day with a statistic about how only 2% of actors receive an income, which is true. He told me all these things about how who did not make all the statistics. Fortunately, my mother championed through and, like, allowed and pushed along. And then my father saw the success that I had and also the change that I've had, because when you have a platform, you're able to make a lot of change. 

Look at Kerry Washington right now. She has been going state, to state, to state, trying to get Democratic senators, getting people to vote for Democratic senators because she has a platform. And they're like, oh, Kerry Washington's endorsed it? I guess I should go vote. So, or even beyond that when it comes to storytelling. I was just on Twitter last night, we do a 07:00 p.m. twitter for Reasonable Doubt. Spoiler alert for those who have not watched this episode, it is tricky because it deals with childhood abuse and grooming. And a man got on Twitter and said, I told my wife the warning, and then she watched it, and for the first time, she talked to me about what happened to her. 

 

So, people need to hear and know these stories of why the arts are important because it brings out awareness, it changes minds. And until we start putting value in the arts, people don't understand the arts. So what I feel is, this has happened in the Caribbean because, I mean, look at some other countries, Europe. Look at India and Bollywood. The amount of funding that comes from the government grants and all of that,

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes, absolutely.

TIFFANY YVONNE COX:  it's fed into there and then it's built up and then it's been able to go across the ocean to other places. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Correct. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: And get bigger. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: I think it's starting to happen in the Caribbean. It has to start somewhere, so it takes some time, but there has to be higher ups that see the value in the arts invest, give people the jobs because you need the training, you need the experience, you need the resume, give the tax credits for people to come over and film there. And we're going to start to see it build up some more. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: I think that's exactly right. Unfortunately for us in the Caribbean, a lot of these initiatives have to be started by the government and then it starts trickling its way down into the community. But surprise, surprise, in the last year or so, we've been hearing a lot about the orange economy and emphasis on the creative arts, etc, etc. But I would like us to just not do the talking, but also, you know, walk the talk and put that into action. Because there are a lot of young people in the Caribbean who just like your dad, think there is no future, there is no career in the creative arts. And that's why your voice, Tiffany, is so important in saying to our young audience and those who are aspiring actors and creative artists that there is a way to do it. Use your Caribbean essence to get there, the resilience, the confidence, et cetera, et cetera. 

But I want to make a quick diversion and ask you, what is it like working with Kerry Washington? 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Of course, we have to know. Let me tell you, she is the most down to earth, kind, heart forward person, and we connected because we're both mothers. So in my audition that I had, I met her, I came on, she was like, how are you doing? And I said, you know, I got my son's hair into a ponytail for the first time, so the day was really good. And she just started cracking up. And from there we were able to talk to and just have banter and not take things too, too seriously.

She directed the pilot of Reasonable Doubt, and the beautiful thing that she did is that she's an actors director. So it's not just about, I need you to stand here so I can get the picture. She's also going to talk about story and character. And beyond that, I remember her saying to us, I can't wait until they start putting out little ads of like, OOH, which Ladera lady are you? And things like that. And she talked to us a bit about what it means to be the number one on the call sheet.What it means to lead a show, as an actor, how to keep your stamina up, to allow other people to do their job. Don't worry about that. So you can just focus on your lines and focus on this moment right here. Because she's done it for years and years. So yes, she is a Godsend. She truly, truly is. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: You know, in our lifetime, there's always somebody who comes in as an inspiration and I'm happy to hear that she provides that because we only see her on screen and so it's very limited. But you get a sense that this is someone with some character based on her activism.

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: And as well with that because I even, I reached out to her. You know, she has people. She got to reach her people sometimes.

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Of course, my people. Talk to your people. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Exactly. And my people’’s, me for now, at least. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON:Only for now.

TIFFANY YVONE COX: Only for now. I needed signatures as we were trying to send out the support for the Crown Act to pass the Senate. So I reached out to her people. She was an immediate yes to get to have her name on there. And hers is one of the top names that they're putting forward of saying, well, Kerry Washington and Angela Bassett and have signed this. So she's always willing as an activist to be there for the people. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: That's fantastic. And I know that like yourself, she's also a parent, she has family life, she has a husband, etc. While managing a successful career in the arts like you are doing. And, we've had some fascinating discussions recently on work life balance. And I know you have a kid and one is very soon on the way.

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Yes.

LESLIE-ANN SEON: So I want to hear from you now, in this kind of industry, how do you manage to balance it all? 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Oh, Lord, that's a great question I keep asking myself, too. First off, I have to say I am so thankful for having Caribbean parents, because when I had my first child, Denmark, my mom came in immediately and was there for a few months. She was like, that's what we do? I can say many other friends don't have that huge difference. Between Caribbean and non Caribbean. That was Mommy Normal. She was like, my child is not going to go with somebody else. No, give me my grandchild. And my mother lives across on the East Coast. And even with this baby that's coming, both my mom and dad, they're going to come and support. So I had support in that way as I began to transition to motherhood and like, oh wait, how do I do an audition and a young child who might be crying or need milk or something like that. Also, you know you're not sleeping a lot those first couple of years. Yes, but my support system is what has allowed balance and also being honest and asking for help. That's something that kind of went against my upbringing where I saw my mother do it all. But I was like, how am I going to be a full time actress, a mother, a wife, and also take care of myself, a friend to others, a sister to my siblings? And I had help. So that's really where the balance comes from. 

Fortunately, my career has done well enough and also I trusted the Lord enough to say, let's go ahead and put this child in daycare so that I can do my auditions without distractions and I can really be in the character. And then I took the job, which allows me to do the next job and the next job and take care of my family financially and put my child into an excellent day care where they take very good care of them.

 I got to tell you, the daycare it's a woman from Sierra Leone. He gets curry chickpeas and jaloff rice. He's eating so, so well, with the chickens in the back that she serves them here and there. It's exactly what I wanted. But it was for me investing in myself. Honestly, I did invest in myself first because then those investments paid forward to my family. So that's where I use the balance, not being afraid to ask for help, also taking on faith, knowing that my talent is good. I need the space to do a good audition, so I book a good job and as well, that thing of like, just keep on going. And I am constantly juggling some things in the air and I allow myself to fail, at times. I'm not going to be perfect and pick myself up and say it's okay and let's try it again. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Yes. You learn from the mistake and you pick it up. 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Yes. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: And move forward. So, Tiffany, as we're closing off our little chat, I wanted to ask you, what's your greatest wish? Or aspiration for Caribbean artists in the region, in the entire creative arts industry, and what do you think is missing from our creative space? 

 

TIFFANY YVONNE COX: Oh, this question kind of brings tears to my eyes, because I just want people to be seen. That is one of my whole missions. I say I love to have two worlds colliding and the reason why I do what I do, especially my hair. I have this natural horsey short hair that I feel like other people don't see and realize their beauty in it. But people need to be seen. Caribbean people need to be seen and they need to be given a chance to have a platform. You need to know what that version of black looks like. So my wish for the Caribbean is represented. I would love to take some of them, I'm writing a show right now, won't say too much, that takes place in Trinidad. Talk about a first generation Trinidadian woman coming there. And, I would love to be able to bring that, like, if a network, because that's also bringing in funds into the country. That's bringing in resources to the country. And when people see that happening, they're like, oh, wait a second. Take more space for this. This is creating an economy that we didn't realize how fruitful it is for us. And not just fruitful, just money wise. It's also fruitful, like, in the soul, spirit wise, because people are seeing themselves reflected. And when people are reflected on screen and they realize that they're not alone, there's just a bright light that shines from that. And you never know what's to come from that. You never know what's to come from that beautiful thing. 

LESLIE-ANN SEON: That's correct. That's such a compelling statement that the Caribbean faces need to be seen and I think their voices need to be heard, just as we heard yours and saw your face today and understand how you've overcome the challenges and succeeded at the very pinnacle that you're working with people like Kerry Washington, folks, that's who we got in front of us. Right, Tiffany, it's been a joy and a pleasure, and I wish you all the best with the birth of that new child and keep soaring for the stars. Keep the Caribbean flag flying high. 

TIFFANY YVONE COX: Yes. Thank you so much.

LESLIE-ANN SEON: Thank you very much.

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LESLIE-ANN SEON: I want to thank Tiffany so very much for taking the time out to chat with us today. I'm sure you enjoyed her conversation, especially those of you who are interested in the entertainment field. 

Remember, you can see Tiffany on Reasonable Doubt, a glorious legal drama. Thanks so much. And thank you, Tiffany, for your contribution on the international stage, waving that Caribbean flag high. 

Thank you again, audience, for being with us once again on this podcast SEON180. We continue to learn from our community of professionals who’ve graced our platform across the globe. 

Don't forget to hit us up on our social media platforms. We do love hearing from you. Tune in again next Sunday for another episode. 

Check us out on YouTube and Seon180.com. Thank you. Goodbye and be safe, everybody.



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